Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/05/1993 08:10 AM Senate FIN

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  SENATE BILL NO. 171                                                          
                                                                               
       An  Act  relating  to  the  contracting  and  financing                 
       authority  of  the  Alaska Industrial  Development  and                 
       Export Authority,  giving approval  of the  issuance of                 
       the  authority's   revenue  bonds,  and   delaying  the                 
       termination date of the authority's business assistance                 
       program; and providing for an effective date.                           
                                                                               
  Co-chair  Pearce  directed  attention to  SB  171  which she                 
  explained  contains  AIDEA  authorization  for an  Anchorage                 
  International Airport fueling  facility and  reauthorization                 
  and delay  of sunset  for the  business assistance  program.                 
  She  then  directed attention  to  revised amendment  no. 1,                 
  advising  that  it  would add  the  Mat-Su,  Port MacKenzie,                 
  Midrex project.   The Co-chair further referenced  amendment                 
  no. 2 to  delete the word  "revenue" from authorization  for                 
  the fueling facility.                                                        
                                                                               
  Senator Kerttula requested a brief recess.                                   
                                                                               
                       RECESS - 9:50 a.m.                                      
                     RECONVENE - 10:05 a.m.                                    
                                                                               
  RILEY  SNELL, Executive Director,  AIDEA, Dept.  of Commerce                 
  and Economic  Development, came before committee.   Co-chair                 
  Pearce observed that she had spoken to both amendments 1 and                 
  2 while  the bill was in  Senate Labor and Commerce,  but no                 
  changes were made in the legislation at that time.                           
                                                                               
  Mr. Snell  explained that  the first provision  of the  bill                 
  relates to  the  Anchorage Fueling  and  Service  Company--a                 
  consortium of airlines  operating the fueling system  at the                 
  Anchorage Airport.    He noted  that a  large contingent  of                 
  airline officials and a representative of MAPCO were present                 
  to speak to the project.                                                     
  He then introduced members of that contingent.                               
                                                                               
  JOHN  OLSON, Deputy Director,  Development, AIDEA,  Dept. of                 
  Commerce  and Economic  Development, came  before committee.                 
  He explained  that the  consortium contains  a "wide  cross-                 
  section  of  principal  users  of  Anchorage   International                 
  Airport, including foreign flag carriers, domestic and . . .                 
  even some air taxi operators . . . ."                                        
                                                                               
  In response  to a  question from  Co-chair Pearce  regarding                 
  international carriers  that have  pulled out  of Anchorage,                 
  Mr.  Snell   explained  that  "they   are  still   obligated                 
  financially to meet some of the  debt of the company."   The                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  existing  agreement  also  contains  a step-up  requirement.                 
  Should a carrier fail or cease  to operate in Anchorage, the                 
  carrier  would  be  obligated  by  two  or three  times  its                 
  commitment to  satisfy financial requirements.   AIDEA would                 
  negotiate that type of  arrangement in the new financing  as                 
  well.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Mr.  Olson   directed  attention   to  charts  and   packets                 
  containing  background information  and letters  of support.                 
  He then asked  that TOM MUSHOVIC, Partner,  Signature Flight                 
  Support,  explain  the  various  components.    Mr. Mushovic                 
  pointed out that fuel presently  flows to Anchorage via  one                 
  of three methods:                                                            
                                                                               
       1.   Rail car from North Pole--MAPCO                                    
            fuel coming to the Anchorage area.                                 
                                                                               
       2.   The Nikiski pipeline containing Chevron and                        
            TESORO products.                                                   
                                                                               
       3.   Marine shipment via barge or tanker from                           
            anywhere in the world.                                             
                                                                               
  All commercial  jet aviation  fuel reaching  Anchorage comes                 
  via one of the  above means.  Within the city,  fuel flow to                 
  the airport is by one of two methods:                                        
                                                                               
       1.   The Alaska Railroad from the downtown core.                        
       2.   The AFSC cross-town pipeline from the Port of                      
            Anchorage.                                                         
                                                                               
  One of the  benefits of the  proposed project is that,  once                 
  constructed,  the new  terminal will  allow interception  of                 
  product from the Nikiski  line.  That will free  up capacity                 
  on the cross-town line and allow for a more equitable supply                 
  of fuel  to the airport.  There are  times when rail car and                 
  cross-town delivery barely  meets needs.   The new  terminal                 
  and interception from  the Nikiski  pipeline will allow  the                 
  cross-town pipeline to satisfy demand.   Need for rail  cars                 
  from  the   Port  of  Anchorage  to  the   airport  will  be                 
  diminished.                                                                  
                                                                               
  The present airport facility  is a combination of  three old                 
  tank  farms.    The  site  now  occupied  by  AFSC  will  be                 
  demobilized  and a  new  operation  and maintenance  station                 
  located thereon.  That  is the second phase of  the proposed                 
  project.   The primary phase  consists of construction  of a                 
  new tank farm,  consisting of  three, 100,000 barrel  tanks.                 
  That effectively increases supply from two to twelve days of                 
  fuel.   Other  components  (control  building,  pump  house,                 
  filter building etc.) would also be part of the project.                     
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce asked if the project includes reconstruction                 
  of the existing cross-town pipeline.   Mr. Mushovic answered                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  that  the  only pipeline  cost  included in  the  request is                 
  extension of the  six-inch line  to the new  facility.   The                 
  cost of the  tie in from the  Nikiski line will be  borne by                 
  TESORO.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp commented that  while the cost to be  borne by                 
  TESORO might be a minor part of the project, it could give a                 
  competitive  advantage  to one  refiner  over another.   Mr.                 
  Mushovic  assured  that  the  project  does  not  provide  a                 
  competitive advantage to anyone.  It "opens up the supply of                 
  fuel to  the airport."   At  the present  time, all  fuel is                 
  passed through the Port of Anchorage and subsequently turned                 
  around and  brought out  to  the airport.   Interception  of                 
  product from  the Nikiski line  will not give  a competitive                 
  advantage to either  TESORO or  Chevron.  That  interception                 
  merely opens up  the cross-town pipeline, allowing  MAPCO to                 
  more freely increase delivery.                                               
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce asked if TESORO provided a letter of support                 
  for the project.   Mr.  Snell explained that  he had  talked                 
  with TESORO representatives who indicated support.  A letter                 
  will be forthcoming.                                                         
                                                                               
  Senator   Sharp  recalled   testimony   in  previous   years                 
  indicating that the cross-town pipeline is in disrepair.  He                 
  then inquired  concerning the  remaining life  of the  line.                 
  Mr. Mushovic said that  the line from the Port  of Anchorage                 
  to the airport is in excellent  condition and is expected to                 
  last 25 to 30 years.  It was constructed in the early 1960s.                 
  Co-chair Pearce echoed statements by Senator Sharp, advising                 
  that current  testimony on the pipeline is  a departure from                 
  that  of the  past.   Prior testimony from  the municipality                 
  indicated that the pipeline had environmental problems.  Mr.                 
  Mushovic acknowledged a  situation in 1988-89 when  the line                 
  developed a leak  near Chester Creek.   The leak was  caused                 
  when construction on C Street relocated the line and damaged                 
  it with construction  equipment.  That is the only situation                 
  that has caused concern.                                                     
                                                                               
  In  response to  a question from  Senator Rieger  asking who                 
  would manage the tank  farm, Mr. Mushovic said that  if AFSC                 
  remains the  operator, it  would also  manage the  facility.                 
  Senator Rieger next asked what arrangements would be made to                 
  protect  the  state investment.    Mr. Snell  explained that                 
  while   design   and   construction  oversight,   operation,                 
  maintenance, and liability  are vested  in AFSC, AIDEA  will                 
  conduct annual  maintenance  and  operating  budget  review.                 
  AIDEA  also   reserves  the   right   to  conduct   periodic                 
  inspections  to ensure  that  the  facility  is kept  up  to                 
  standard.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger asked if all partners in the consortium would                 
  jointly  and  severally  guarantee  the  debt.    Mr.  Snell                 
  responded negatively.   He then reiterated  earlier comments                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  regarding step-up provisions, requiring that a member of the                 
  consortium  assume  two or  three  times  the ratio  of  the                 
  member's investment should the member  airline fail or leave                 
  the area.                                                                    
                                                                               
  In response to  an additional question from  Senator Rieger,                 
  Mr.  Snell  indicated that  AIDEA's  operating  budget would                 
  cover the  cost of staff  assigned to  oversee the  project.                 
  Any third-party  costs  for independent  analysis  would  be                 
  borne by the developer.                                                      
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Frank asked why AIDEA would  be the owner on the                 
  proposed projects  rather than  merely the  financier.   Mr.                 
  Snell  explained  that  the  principal  reason  is  to  take                 
  advantage  of IRS  tax-exempt bond  issues  for governmental                 
  entities that provide infrastructure  development for ports,                 
  harbors,  or airports.    In order  to obtain  that benefit,                 
  ownership must be vested in the governmental entity.                         
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp asked who would be responsible for clean up of                 
  the old  tank farm.  Mr. Snell said  that AIDEA would not be                 
  responsible.   AIDEA  will seek  indemnification  from prior                 
  existing conditions.  Senator Rieger then asked who would be                 
  responsible for  environmental issues relating to  the three                 
  new tanks.  Mr.  Snell said that responsibility  would inure                 
  to  the  fueling  consortium  through  contract  provisions.                 
  Senator Rieger  suggested  that  strict  liability  law  may                 
  prohibit  that.   Mr. Snell  acknowledged the  concern.   He                 
  explained that for that reason the consortium is responsible                 
  for design, construction, maintenance, and operation.  There                 
  will  thus be only one  party liable over  the course of the                 
  project.   Contract provisions will  fix responsibility  for                 
  spills, cleanup, etc. with the  consortium.  The airport, as                 
  the  land  owner,  would  also  come into  play  should  the                 
  consortium  have  difficulty  in  meeting  its   obligation.                 
  Senator  Rieger  asked   if  harm  would  be  done   to  the                 
  legislation if indemnification from environmental issues was                 
  added.  Mr.  Snell reiterated  that responsibility would  be                 
  fixed  in  contract.    If  AIDEA  does   not  receive  that                 
  assurance, it will not proceed with the project.                             
                                                                               
  Discussion followed between  Co-chair Pearce  and Mr.  Snell                 
  regarding possible  environmental problems  at the  existing                 
  facility.    Mr. Snell  stressed  that the  proposed project                 
  would  be  located on  new  land  which  would be  base-line                 
  studied   to   determine   that   there   is   no   existing                 
  contamination.   Ongoing  monitoring  programs would  ensure                 
  that no contamination  occurs.  Further  discussion followed                 
  regarding demobilization efforts at the existing facility.                   
  Senator Kerttula commented  on past efforts relating  to the                 
  right-of-way leasing  act.   Experts  testified  that  well-                 
  written contracts are more powerful  instruments in terms of                 
  giving direction than are state statutes.                                    
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Discussion followed regarding planned demolition of existing                 
  facilities and use of the land thereafter.                                   
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce next  directed attention to amendment  no. 2                 
  which she explained was  requested by AIDEA.  The  amendment                 
  would delete  the word "revenue"  on page  1, line 12.   Mr.                 
  Snell explained that  use of the  word "revenue" limits  the                 
  ability  of  the  authority to  use  its  general obligation                 
  powers  to  finance projects.    Revenue financing  is based                 
  strictly upon the credit of the participants in the project.                 
  AIDEA seeks the flexibility to deliver "the cheapest capital                 
  cost to the project."  Providing that AIDEA gets the type of                 
  security it seeks  from developers, the authority  wants the                 
  ability to  use its general  obligation powers.   Under that                 
  arrangement,  the  faith  and  credit  of the  authority  is                 
  obligated by issuance of the bonds.  Senator Kelly expressed                 
  a  preference  for issuance  of  revenue bonds  over general                 
  obligation bonds.   Senator Rieger voiced his  discomfort as                 
  well, advising that  a $40  million obligation represents  a                 
  substantial portion of AIDEA's net worth.                                    
                                                                               
  Senator Kelly  asked if  AFSC  could finance  a $40  million                 
  project without AIDEA backing.                                               
                                                                               
  End, SFC-93, #49, Side 1                                                     
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  Mr. Snell  advised that  while it  could be  done, it  would                 
  require a joint and severable relationship with the airlines                 
  to  obtain    financing.    FRED KETZEBACK,  Director,  Fuel                 
  Administration, Alaska  Airlines, and  Chairman, AFSC,  came                 
  before committee.   He explained  that the consortium  could                 
  obtain financing but  it would  not be as  favorable as  the                 
  tax-exempt arrangement through  AIDEA.  Increased  financing                 
  charges would be passed along to the airlines in fuel costs,                 
  etc.  Mr. Snell observed that  since revenue bonds are based                 
  on  the  credit  of  the   developer,  they  entail  greater                 
  financing  costs  than  do general  obligation  bonds.   The                 
  difference  between  the  two  depends  upon  weekly  market                 
  conditions, but  it could  range 25  to 50  basis points  in                 
  interest rates  (a quarter  to one-half  percent).   Senator                 
  Frank  voiced  his  understanding  that in  issuing  general                 
  obligation bonds,  AIDEA was,  in effect,  taking a  greater                 
  risk and passing the benefit on  to the borrower.  Mr. Snell                 
  observed that AIDEA would charge the developer a higher rate                 
  for  use  of general  obligation  bond authority.    While a                 
  higher  fee  would be  paid,  the  developer would  get  the                 
  overall  benefit  of cheaper  money.   Senator  Frank voiced                 
  concern regarding the additional risk.  He then asked if the                 
  authority had proceeded  in this  manner on other  projects.                 
  Mr. Snell told  members that general obligation  powers were                 
  used at Unalaska and the Skagway Ore Terminal.  The  Red Dog                 
  Mine at Kotzebue  was a revenue  bond issue.  Senator  Frank                 
  questioned  whether  such  use of  general  obligation  bond                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  authority was good policy.                                                   
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce  asked why the international  airport system                 
  did  not  seek to  utilize  federal funds  for  the project,                 
  retaining ownership  within the  airport while  allowing the                 
  consortium to  operate it.  Mr.  Snell said that he  was not                 
  aware that the project would be eligible for such funding.                   
                                                                               
  Discussion followed  between  Senator Rieger  and Mr.  Snell                 
  concerning  AIDEA  charges  on   general  obligation  versus                 
  revenue  bonds.   Mr.  Snell  said  that costs  are  usually                 
  negotiated.  For  issuance of  general obligation bonds  for                 
  Federal Express, AIDEA  charged 85  basis points beyond  the                 
  cost  of   money.    Ownership  was  also  retained  by  the                 
  authority.     Senator   Kelly   asked   if   the   original                 
  recommendation  from  AIDEA  was  for  issuance  of  general                 
  obligation  bonds.  Mr. Snell concurred.   He suggested that                 
  use of the word "revenue" was  most likely a drafting error.                 
  In response  to a  question from  Senator Rieger, Mr.  Snell                 
  explained that under  a revenue bond issue  AIDEA would have                 
  to retain ownership to keep tax-exempt financing in place.                   
                                                                               
  Senator  Frank voiced his  understanding that  regardless of                 
  whether  the  project  proceeds  as  a  revenue  or  general                 
  obligation  bond issue,  should  default occur,  AIDEA would                 
  assume  financial  responsibility.    Mr.  Snell  concurred,                 
  advising that if the authority did  not do so its reputation                 
  in the marketplace would be severely damaged.  He added that                 
  because  the proposed  project  involves  both  foreign  and                 
  domestic  carriers as well  as Federal  Express and  UPS, it                 
  collectively has good credit.                                                
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce  next directed attention to  bill provisions                 
  relating  to extension  of the business  assistance program.                 
  Mr. Snell explained  that the  provision extends the  sunset                 
  date to 1996.   Material  changes in the  program were  made                 
  last session at  the request of banking institutions and the                 
  authority to make the  program more usable and to  fulfill a                 
  need for small loans in rural  Alaska.  Mr. Snell urged that                 
  the sunset extension be approved.                                            
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce directed attention to  revised amendment no.                 
  1.  She  explained that the  amendment would place both  the                 
  amount of aircraft  fueling facility bonds and  the proposed                 
  Midrex bonds in  the title.   It would  further authorize  a                 
  facility for use by  Midrex Corporation.                                     
                                                                               
  DON MOORE, Borough  Manager, Matanuska-Susitna Borough, came                 
  before  committee.   He  explained  that the  Midrex project                 
  would  be located  in upper  Cook Inlet at  Point MacKenzie.                 
  Midrex Corporation is  an American corporation and  a wholly                 
  owned subsidiary of Japan's  Kobe Steel.  Midrex  utilizes a                 
  process  by  which  iron  ore  is  directly  reduced into  a                 
  metallized   product   for    steel   making   and   foundry                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  applications.   The process  uses large  amounts of  natural                 
  gas.    Approximately 92%  of the  natural gas  is used  for                 
  chemical  feedstock.  Only  8% is used  as combustible fuel.                 
  That is important in  light of the pending federal  BTU tax.                 
  Senator  Kelly  asked  if the  plant  could  be  operated by                 
  another energy  source.  Mr.  Moore said that  while another                 
  energy  source  could be  used  to operate  the  system, the                 
  process  requires the carbon and hydrogen  in natural gas as                 
  the chemical reductant.   The resulting product  is marketed                 
  in the Pacific  Rim.  Although  there are 42 similar  plants                 
  throughout the world, there  are none "on the west  coast of                 
  either  of the Americas."   As the  third world electrifies,                 
  the Pacific Rim market will grow larger.  The Midrex process                 
  creates  feed stock  for electric  arc furnaces and  will be                 
  shipped to other parts of  the world.  The product  does not                 
  compete with scrap  metal.  It  assists the scrap  industry.                 
  With increasing metal standards for steel, reprocessed scrap                 
  metal is not of sufficient  quality for modern construction.                 
  Feed  stock  is thus  added  to the  scrap  to  bring it  to                 
  standard.                                                                    
                                                                               
  The   capital   investment   for  the   proposed   plant  is                 
  approximately $200 million.   The facility would  employ 120                 
  full-time employees.   During construction, employment would                 
  be  considerably  higher than  that.   The stability  of the                 
  United States and  the Alaskan  labor market are  attractive                 
  features for  investment.   There are  currently only  three                 
  such plants located in North America.                                        
                                                                               
  The borough has 5,000 acres of land at the site and has made                 
  a commitment of that  land.  The product is  compatible with                 
  coal.    Coal from  the Wish  Bone  Hill project,  should it                 
  commence operation, could be loaded and transported from the                 
  same site.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Mr. Moore  described the  effort as  "authentically a  free-                 
  trade-zone  project."  Iron ore  from outside the state (the                 
  West  Coast  and  South  America)  would  be  processed  for                 
  shipment to Japan.  Co-chair Pearce voiced her understanding                 
  that  the  Municipality  of  Anchorage  refused  the  Mat-Su                 
  Borough request to be  part of the proposed Anchorage  free-                 
  trade  zone.   She  then  asked  if Mat-Su  had  submitted a                 
  federal application for  a separate  zone.   Mr. Moore  said                 
  that Mat-Su has not yet  applied for free-trade-zone status.                 
  In  response  to comments  by  the Co-chair  indicating that                 
  establishment  of such  zones  takes considerable  time, Mr.                 
  Moore said that  the zone was not  "absolutely necessary" to                 
  the project.   Mr. Snell added that time needed to bring the                 
  proposed  plant  into   service  would  be  sufficient   for                 
  processing a free-trade-zone application.                                    
                                                                               
  Mr.  Moore  stressed  the  advantage  of locating  at  Point                 
  MacKenzie:                                                                   
                                                                               
                                                                               
       1.   A close supply of natural gas.                                     
                                                                               
       2.   Available low-cost industrial land.                                
                                                                               
       3.   Deep-water port site with a Corps of Engineers                     
            404 permit.                                                        
                                                                               
       4.   Strategically positioned for emerging  Pacific Rim                 
            markets.                                                           
                                                                               
       5.   Stable politics and labor force.                                   
                                                                               
  He next directed  attention to the  proposed budget for  the                 
  $50 million project.   In  response to a  question from  Co-                 
  chair  Pearce,  Mr.  Moore explained  that  the  $50 million                 
  represents   only   the   "public   loan   portion  of   the                 
  infrastructure."   The  Midrex plant  would involve  private                 
  enterprise investment.  AIDEA backed bonds would provide for                 
  the dock and conveying  system.  Senator Kelly asked  if the                 
  bonds would cover  a boat  loading facility or  a dock  that                 
  could be expanded  for other uses  such as the Alaska  State                 
  Ferry, passenger  ships, etc.  Mr. Snell  explained that the                 
  concept at this time is to  design something for the client.                 
  Funding above and beyond Midrex debt service would require a                 
  clear demonstration that  there were other sources  of funds                 
  to cover that portion.                                                       
                                                                               
  Responding  to  an additional  question  from  Senator Kelly                 
  regarding land  arrangements, Mr.  Moore explained that  the                 
  arrangement would not be entirely cost free.  A lease, which                 
  is yet to be  negotiated, would be involved.   Senator Kelly                 
  voiced  reluctance  to  approve  financing  for  the project                 
  without a firm lease in place.  Mr. Snell observed, "This is                 
  a positioning effort . . .  to demonstrate to private sector                 
  participants  that  we   are  prepared  to  participate   in                 
  infrastructure  development."    The  authority  would  only                 
  commit  funds  after   review  of  a  financing   plan  that                 
  identifies all costs and  all sources of funds.   That would                 
  include land use and the lease with the borough.                             
                                                                               
  When  questioned  further by  Senator  Kelly, asking  if the                 
  proposed  legislation  represents  a commitment,  Mr.  Snell                 
  answered:                                                                    
                                                                               
       I look  at it, Senator, certainly,  as legislative                      
       authorization to  proceed with the  project.  But,                      
       certainly, it's  not an indication that  there's a                      
       done deal.                                                              
                                                                               
  AIDEA will examine the financial feasibility of the project,                 
  the economics,  the risk, etc.,  and assure that  Midrex has                 
  the ability to repay the debt prior to commitment.                           
                                                                               
  Senator  Rieger   asked  if   the  remaining   $150  million                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  investment would be made before  or after dock construction.                 
  Mr.  Snell  said  that  there  would  probably  be  parallel                 
  construction  efforts.   Site  development  is likely  to be                 
  ongoing as port development commences.                                       
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger next  inquired concerning  the extent of  the                 
  guarantee from Kobe Steel.  Mr. Snell acknowledged that that                 
  had not yet been negotiated.                                                 
                                                                               
  Discussion followed concerning the triangular shipping route                 
  for raw and processed materials.                                             
                                                                               
  Co-chair  Pearce inquired regarding a resolution from Midrex                 
  Corporation.   Mr.  Snell advised  of a board  of directors'                 
  resolution authorizing development of  the project with  the                 
  Mat-Su Borough and Midrex.                                                   
                                                                               
  In response  to a  question from  Senator Rieger  concerning                 
  ownership of the  dock and loading facility, Mr. Snell noted                 
  IRS  code advantages  for tax-exempt financing  under public                 
  ownership.   Public ownership  also makes sense  in terms of                 
  possible multiple users.                                                     
                                                                               
  Further discussion  followed regarding  1986 changes  in the                 
  Internal Revenue Service  Code.  Mr. Snell  observed, "About                 
  the only thing that remains for tax-exempt financing anymore                 
  are ports and harbors and airports."                                         
                                                                               
  Additional  comments   followed  by  Mr.   Snell  concerning                 
  possible share costs under a multiple use arrangement.                       
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce voiced her intention to  move both SB 16 and                 
  SB 171 from  committee at the same time.   She then directed                 
  attention to SB  171 and  inquired regarding disposition  of                 
  revised amendment no. 1, relating to Midrex.                                 
                                                                               
  Senator  Kelly  inquired concerning  the  tax status  of the                 
  proposed airport fueling facility.  Mr. Snell explained that                 
  if the  project is owned by  AIDEA, it would be  exempt from                 
  municipal  taxation.    If owned  by  Anchorage  Fueling and                 
  Service Company, it would  be subject to taxation.   Senator                 
  Kelly  expressed  a  preference  for   adoption  of  revised                 
  amendment  no.  1  but not  amendment  no.  2--pertaining to                 
  deletion of language  concerning "revenue  bonds."  He  then                 
  formally  MOVED  for  adoption of  revised  amendment  no. 1                 
  relating to  Midrex.   Senator Rieger  OBJECTED.  He  voiced                 
  support for the  concept of the  project, but noted lack  of                 
  supporting  information, questioning whether it was ready to                 
  proceed.  Senator Kerttula said that if the project does not                 
  meet all  criteria, it  will not  proceed under  AIDEA.   He                 
  expressed concern that delay of authority might mean loss of                 
  "this year" in terms of timing   as well as ultimate loss of                 
  the opportunity.  Mr. Snell concurred in comments by Senator                 
  Kerttula.   The legislation represents a  positioning effort                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  whereby Alaska may  compete for the project  and demonstrate                 
  AIDEA's   willingness   to  participate   in  infrastructure                 
  development.  That development poses  a major cost component                 
  to the developer.                                                            
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger reiterated support for the project, but again                 
  suggested that authorization  appears to  be premature.   He                 
  voiced reluctance to  vote on a  $50 million issue based  on                 
  little information.  Co-chair Frank indicated need to review                 
  terms and conditions that would have  to be met before AIDEA                 
  would proceed.   Co-chair Pearce  pointed to the  fact sheet                 
  from AIDEA and limitations built into AIDEA statutes.                        
                                                                               
  Senator Kelly raised  concern regarding lack of  information                 
  on Mat-Su  Borough involvement.   He asked what  the borough                 
  would be devoting to the project.   Mr. Moore explained that                 
  borough  ordinances establish  set  rates  and maximums  for                 
  lease of borough land.  The borough could both forgive lease                 
  payments and levy  a property  tax on the  development.   It                 
  seeks the development  on behalf of  the state and the  jobs                 
  for the local economy.                                                       
                                                                               
  Co-chair  Pearce requested that  Senator Kelly  withdraw his                 
  motion for  adoption of  revised amendment  no. 1  and asked                 
  that Mr. Snell  obtain a  copy of the  resolution passed  by                 
  AIDEA as  well as  additional information  concerning action                 
  intended  to be  taken by  the  board once  authorization is                 
  provided.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Co-chair Frank voiced his understanding that bonds issued by                 
  AIDEA would be repaid by revenue from the Midrex  operation.                 
  Aside from  the tax-exempt  benefit of  the  bonds for  port                 
  construction,  no  subsidy  would  be  involved.    He  then                 
  registered his  support for  the project,  saying that  such                 
  capital development should be encouraged.                                    
                                                                               
  Senator Kelly WITHDREW  his motion  for adoption of  revised                 
  amendment no. 1 and reiterated  need for further information                 
  on Mat-Su Borough involvement.                                               
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting was adjourned at approximately 11:25 a.m.                        
                                                                               

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